Feb
07
2010
Question about Fishing?
James asked:
A few weeks ago me and my friend were at the pier, after several hours of fishing my friend hooked a 10 foot Tiger Shark. He was fighting it for 4 hours, finally he reeled it up to the pier, the pier was 40 foot above the water, so he reeled in the shark until it was EXACTLY 90 degrees below him (the shark was 40 foot below us). Basically he reeled it in as far he could, because the shark weighed like 800 pounds. The shark surfaced and people stood around taking pictures for several minutes, and then my friend cut the line. Someone on the pier started telling us that it didn’t count as catching the shark, because we were suppose to touch the leader with our hand (according to fishing tournament rules)! But the leader was 40 foot below us! What the hell is that all about??? Did it count as catching the shark???
I posted this question about a month ago, but i forgot to include ‘these’ additional details below (so i am reposting it):
1) This wasN’T a pier tournament, it was just us going out fishing to have fun
2) There was a basket on the pier, but the fish was 800 lbs, the basket was like four foot
3. forget tournament forget record, did it count as catching the fish? or did it count as my friend just standing there and waist 4 hours of his life?
4. That guy on the pier that told us it didnt count as catching the shark after we already released it, that was the first time we ever heard of anything like that
5. dragging it to shore and then going in the water and touchin the leader, we would be lucky if all we lost was only an arm
6. walking the shark to the shore we would have also got arrested because it specifically says no shark fishing because of the swimmers, so pretend we drag a 10 foot TIGER SHARK to the shore. There were at least 70 swimmers in the water that day.
7. After 4 hours of fighting the shark, we tired the shark out to the point that it WAS floating on top of the water 90 degrees below us, for like 5 min
8. The rule doesnt make sense, because if so, i caught a tarpon one time no leader, reeled it next to the boat, and without even having to touch the fish i snipped the line one millimeter away from the fish’s mouth, but that didnt count as a catch, because there was no leader. But on the other hand if i would have caught the same tarpon and had an-11 foot leader on my line, and touched the first five inches of that leader, and the other remaining 10.7 feet of it would have been in the water, it would have counted as a catch. Does that make sense???? No!
To Grand Master Basser,
It was tired on top of the water swishing its tail around, very slowly (you know what i mean), for me thats the definition floating! And by the way it did head for the pilings several times during the fight, even one time we thought we were gonna loose the fish.
thats the definition of* floating
A few weeks ago me and my friend were at the pier, after several hours of fishing my friend hooked a 10 foot Tiger Shark. He was fighting it for 4 hours, finally he reeled it up to the pier, the pier was 40 foot above the water, so he reeled in the shark until it was EXACTLY 90 degrees below him (the shark was 40 foot below us). Basically he reeled it in as far he could, because the shark weighed like 800 pounds. The shark surfaced and people stood around taking pictures for several minutes, and then my friend cut the line. Someone on the pier started telling us that it didn’t count as catching the shark, because we were suppose to touch the leader with our hand (according to fishing tournament rules)! But the leader was 40 foot below us! What the hell is that all about??? Did it count as catching the shark???
I posted this question about a month ago, but i forgot to include ‘these’ additional details below (so i am reposting it):
1) This wasN’T a pier tournament, it was just us going out fishing to have fun
2) There was a basket on the pier, but the fish was 800 lbs, the basket was like four foot
3. forget tournament forget record, did it count as catching the fish? or did it count as my friend just standing there and waist 4 hours of his life?
4. That guy on the pier that told us it didnt count as catching the shark after we already released it, that was the first time we ever heard of anything like that
5. dragging it to shore and then going in the water and touchin the leader, we would be lucky if all we lost was only an arm
6. walking the shark to the shore we would have also got arrested because it specifically says no shark fishing because of the swimmers, so pretend we drag a 10 foot TIGER SHARK to the shore. There were at least 70 swimmers in the water that day.
7. After 4 hours of fighting the shark, we tired the shark out to the point that it WAS floating on top of the water 90 degrees below us, for like 5 min
8. The rule doesnt make sense, because if so, i caught a tarpon one time no leader, reeled it next to the boat, and without even having to touch the fish i snipped the line one millimeter away from the fish’s mouth, but that didnt count as a catch, because there was no leader. But on the other hand if i would have caught the same tarpon and had an-11 foot leader on my line, and touched the first five inches of that leader, and the other remaining 10.7 feet of it would have been in the water, it would have counted as a catch. Does that make sense???? No!
To Grand Master Basser,
It was tired on top of the water swishing its tail around, very slowly (you know what i mean), for me thats the definition floating! And by the way it did head for the pilings several times during the fight, even one time we thought we were gonna loose the fish.
thats the definition of* floating
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By Rolly From Greenzzzzzz, February 10, 2010 @ 10:09 pm
first of all i have read the entire story cause it basically was not a question and secondly what the heck are you saying cause i am so lost what you were basically trying to say is that catching a fish or whatever you need a leader who knows what that mean but basically i don’t think it make sense i agree with you lol.
By moecartman, February 11, 2010 @ 1:46 am
when me and my buddies are pier fishing, as long as the fish dont get off, or break the line, and you’ve got the fish to the top of the water and it’s played out, then you have the bragging rights of catching the fish.if it’s too big to pull it up on the pier like some big rays and sharks are, then getting it to the surface without it fighting anymore is all you can do. your fish counts in my book!
By spock69, February 13, 2010 @ 8:13 am
If the fish did not get off until you let him off, that is a catch. You did the only smart thing you could do in that situation. And you have pictures to prove it…good job!
By JUSTFISH, February 14, 2010 @ 3:50 am
WHY WOULD YOU CARE WHAT SOME ON A PIER WOULD SAY,
YOU FOUGHT THAT FISH FOR 4 HOURS, I WOULD SAY YOU CAUGHT THE **** OUTTA THAT SHARK,
SOME PEOPLE ARE @SSWIPES LIKE THAT GUY, DIPSH!T WAS PROBABLY JEALOUS CAUSE YOU WERE CATCHIN’ AND HE WAS WATCHIN’
YOU CAUGHT THAT FISH,
CONGRATULATIONS, NICE CATCH
By Ricardo, February 15, 2010 @ 4:29 pm
I am extremely aware of that rule, and well, its ridiculous! I went fishing with a friend of mine one time and he caught a 6-foot bull shark, there was no way we could have reeled it up, nor touch the leader, because we were standing 9 foot up on the sea wall, the shark swallowed half of the 4 foot leader. As soon as i turned my head to the side i heard a big splash, when i looked over it was my friend he jumped in the water to touch the leader, just so it could count as a catch. This was at night, we had almost no light except for a small flashlight, there were definetly other sharks in the water as well, as he was treading water he started holding on to the shark’s pectoral fin, and climbed on it to reach for the leader. And he did. He then used the rope of the chum bag, to climb out of the water. As soon as he got out i gave him a nice @ss whoppin!
If anything would have happened to him i would have personally devoted the rest of my life, and doing everything in my power, including going to the Supreme Court to shut down the IGFA.
But dont worry James, in my book what you and your buddy did counts as a catch!!!!!!!!
By Rene, February 18, 2010 @ 5:14 am
no it dont count as a catch, unless you would have punched that guy in the face.
you know i was fishin one time and i caught 500 lbs tuna, as soon as i hooke it it swim to the boat, alongside the boat, i could have touched the leader and then cut line and said hooray its a catch, but instead i fought it for another additional hour until i tired it out and brought it inside the boat.
By Ron Brgundy, February 20, 2010 @ 6:30 pm
Lol a 10 foot tiger shark that close to shore
Now I remember why I don’t surf
The guy on the pier is what we call a Negative Nancy
By Grand Master Basser, February 20, 2010 @ 10:39 pm
Hmm… That’s believable. To a point. Yeah, a ten-foot tiger near the beach. Yep, an idiot saying you technically didn’t catch it because you didn’t touch the leader. It floating on the surface for five minutes? No. Sharks sink when they stop swimming and I’m sure as sh*t it wouldn’t have stayed still for that long, if at all. The only way it was would stay afloat IF it wasn’t swimming is if someone was holding it by tail and being forty feet below a pier, well… Plus since you’re fishing off a pier, it would have headed for the pilings.
Sorry to disagree, but it just sounds fishy. Or sharky I should say.
By m g, February 23, 2010 @ 10:41 pm
Unless you’re in some sort of tournament or trying to enter a record fish, you get to make up the rules of what you consider a caught fish. I don’t fish with leaders, when I’m fishing in a river and catch a smallmouth, I count it as a caught fish if I lift it out of the water but it flips off before I touch it. Some of my friends would say you have to touch the fish, others would say you have to have the fish in your hand. No answer is right unless you are playing by some sort of rule like in a tournament, and even then the rules are always different. I would count that as a catch, and it sounds like you might have pictures to prove it.
Furthermore, I would have gone ahead and beached the fish to remove the hook so the forty feet of line trailing off of it is not a danger to the fish or swimmers who might get tangled. But I would also understand if you didn’t want to mess with a shark that big for safety sake as well. If you really weren’t targeting sharks (using shark specific tackle) and were just releasing the fish, you probably wouldn’t have to worry about getting arrested for intentional shark fishing.
By bosoxnolan, February 24, 2010 @ 12:03 pm
Just being able to hook the fish counts as catching it in my books. That’s what it’s all about anyway.
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